Straight from my heart

[Skingrine]

Hello players of Krenn and of other so many servers.

With all of this stuff going on lately I just feel a need to create this thread.

Because of hardcore RP gaining so much popularity among newer players, let me introduce myself. I am Skingrine, been a roleplayer since 2012 on M&B: Warband. I've been in so many servers. And I know more of the members are as old or even older than me so they know what I will be speaking of, newer players too.

We just see a loop that has been going on for a long while. We have first one dominant server, sometime after a new server approaches. Making the dominant server lose its playerbase. And for some of you that didnt know, this was not the case when WRP was and kept being the dominant server a looong while ago. 2011-2013 if im correct. Since then people tried to create new servers for us to still enjoy RPing. Some of which the veteran players and yes some of us dedicated almost half our life on Warband RP and still keep doing so.

Why do I adress us as community, and the past "Communities" as servers? Because we are one no matter how you look at it. Same players return to the server that seems most fun for them to enjoy. And is RP not about enjoying your time rather than feeling required to?

I am straying off path here. What I want to say comes straight from my heart as one of the many dedicated players. We're about to hit that loop again. And I just want you to know, I do not want this loop either. I am personally guilty of this soon to be loop. Not making any advertisements. But it just pains me as any other to see Krenn's playerbase decreasing as I've been playing for awhile here. Spoke with Wlod too. May the best server win. And I truly hope Krenn will survive this loop. Being part of a loop thats been going on for so many years, it does pain me. I rather see one server wether it be Krenn or some other server. Just one server where toxicity can be put aside for once. All the OOC gangs to just go back to PK servers where they can do what PK clans do. Call the clan online for wars blabla. And have RP of quality rather than quantity of players in a faction. Its probably my third rant (?).

And with OOC gangs I do not mean friends still cant play together. I just want a community to be whole without needing two servers to compete. Just put some guilt off my chest. I hope the best to Krenn. Although it has it flaws, which server doesnt?

Just remember for the future's sake. We're a community, with for years more than one server always battling on who's the best. And please be kind on the trolling comments?

Best regards,
Skingrine.

[Delita]

I sort of agree.

Would be nice if Server Owners communicated with each other and planned their servers around each other so they don't compete. Its not about "may the best server win". Its about the fact by opening another server, especially so early into another, you will be splitting the community and you are essentially putting the opposing server's time and effort at risk since eventually the split will lean one way, leaving one server empty. Mapping takes a long time, writing the lore, all the time put into reading and accepting bios, helping people server-side. You have an entire staff team of people who you're indirectly shitting on to be honest and its a massive shame and a massive waste. Not only that, but you also put your own work, staff's work and time at risk too. Not to mention the players who have just started achieving their goals, finally having saved enough for their BR, just got their organization going, they're kind of being left hanging now. Two servers can't possibly co-exist and function properly, atleast not in the typical and desirable fashion and certainly not in the way these scenarios have been designed. The playerbase just isn't vast enough. All the bad feelings and shit-talking could be avoided by basically just being polite and waiting your turn.

Its like finding a nice empty basketball hoop and setting up a game with your pals, next thing you know some other random dudes turn up and start a second game right there in your face, not playing -with- you. They just start shooting hoops and getting in your way, oh, and they even steal some of your pals to make their game bigger and say "Hey man, its a public place, anyone can play here."

[Deleted]

Robert talking about the community what we need.

[Herodium]

It’s certainly a sad and selfish thing that servers are popping out to the detriment of a dying community and dividing it by many more fractured pieces

[Bartolomeo]

Sept 30, 2020 0:03:02 GMT Herodium said:

It’s certainly a sad and selfish thing that servers are popping out to the detriment of a dying community and dividing it by many more fractured pieces

waaa waaa

may the superior server survive. or better yet, let them both die so we can all detox for a little while whilst we wait for modding tools on BL

[goodfella]

Sept 29, 2020 22:46:57 GMT Delita said:

I sort of agree.

Would be nice if Server Owners communicated with each other and planned their servers around each other so they don't compete. Its not about "may the best server win". Its about the fact by opening another server, especially so early into another, you will be splitting the community and you are essentially putting the opposing server's time and effort at risk since eventually the split will lean one way, leaving one server empty. Mapping takes a long time, writing the lore, all the time put into reading and accepting bios, helping people server-side. You have an entire staff team of people who you're indirectly shitting on to be honest and its a massive shame and a massive waste. Not only that, but you also put your own work, staff's work and time at risk too. Not to mention the players who have just started achieving their goals, finally having saved enough for their BR, just got their organization going, they're kind of being left hanging now. Two servers can't possibly co-exist and function properly, atleast not in the typical and desirable fashion and certainly not in the way these scenarios have been designed. The playerbase just isn't vast enough. All the bad feelings and shit-talking could be avoided by basically just being polite and waiting your turn.

Its like finding a nice empty basketball hoop and setting up a game with your pals, next thing you know some other random dudes turn up and start a second game right there in your face, not playing -with- you. They just start shooting hoops and getting in your way, oh, and they even steal some of your pals to make their game bigger and say "Hey man, its a public place, anyone can play here."

I agree and disagree. I agree with the statement that, in a situation like this, that a united server is better i mean this is just a factual statement, however. The issue with this statement is that its contextual, some players dont feel content with krenn, the same way that some people didnt feel content with Pax,Crp,Mbrp,SRP and the other various of roleplay servers that existed during the time of this game. While yes there are people who are getting their moment now, unfortunately for them there are servers coming up, and they wont be able to fully utilize these characters in a scenario where the servers are barren, due to the amount of them. However the same could be said for people who did play the scenario, did have their moment and then died or got bored with it, and want to move on and dont find the scenario as fun. And in my honest opinion, both of them are equally right. People dont want to wait their turn, because quite frankly they dont need to, if they have a better vision for the RP community, then let them do it, if they fail, they fail, if they succeed this server dies, and that server lives on, thats how RP has always been working. And i say this as someone who has been a staff members for the previous servers. When it comes to OOC gangs, as Skingrine was reffering to, OOC gangs, are unfortunate but sometimes necessary, while people might disagree with this statement, the issue is that eventually the reason why a lot of servers get more active, is that people gather their friends, and go to play those servers, they have fun with playing with their friends, while this isnt desired from a roleplay standpoint, its desirable if you think of RP as a game, and games are often almost always more fun with friends. 

In order to conclude this and acheive a point. 

All that could be said is, that hopefully one of these servers are capable of producing quality but also a fun experience for most roleplayers, if the best server wins and the other dies, then that is unfortunate, but it is how it works, you are offering a product, and yes its free to play, from an economical point of view, however , it still requires players to invest energy and time into it, and that requires the server to offer better then their competition.

[Skingrine]

I've always compared this with the churches where I live. All christians yet in a different church due to different opninions on whats better. With people liking the people in that specific council (comparing it with staffteams) more than the other. All are one but devided.

[Herodium]

Sept 30, 2020 0:41:25 GMT Bartolomeo said:

Sept 30, 2020 0:03:02 GMT Herodium said:

It’s certainly a sad and selfish thing that servers are popping out to the detriment of a dying community and dividing it by many more fractured pieces

waaa waaa

may the superior server survive. or better yet, let them both die so we can all detox for a little while whilst we wait for modding tools on BL

That’s what I’ve been praying to since the second server split

[warwick]

yeah server owners used to communicate when they had the community’s best interests at heart instead of personal vendettas against one another’s staff teams

there’s a reason why there was a peaceful transition from krenn 2 to darkmyre or pax 2 to krenn : P

[gapel]

meanwhile saptors bank account is being flooded from script money

[BlackBeard]

Everything ends eventually, that doesn't mean it wasn't good whilst it lasted. If you want to make it last longer, create rp. The admins help true, but its not the server owner that makes the server active. Its the players and the rp they create. The only thing admins do is allow your creativity to become that reality in the server.

[Herodium]

Sept 30, 2020 14:25:54 GMT warwick said:

yeah server owners used to communicate when they had the community’s best interests at heart instead of personal vendettas against one another’s staff teams

there’s a reason why there was a peaceful transition from krenn 2 to darkmyre or pax 2 to krenn : P

The transition from Pax 2 to Krenn being peaceful would be inaccurate because the Pax 2 Staff team was very mad with Hani selling us out
Not that it matters no, lmao

[vaegarr]

yo tldr version for my lazy ass?

[scp049]

Sept 30, 2020 15:57:43 GMT gapel said:

meanwhile saptors bank account is being flooded from script money

he said and i quote "we will sweep in when one server crumbles" thats literally the biggest dick move out there.

[peterpanthechief]

why are there so many gentlemen from the colonies